In an apparent bid to court centrist US voters, Newsom -- a presumed frontrunner for the Democratic leadership -- this month launched “This is Gavin Newsom,“ pledging to talk to “those I fundamentally disagree with.”
Many Democrats on the party’s left flank have blasted Newsom for providing a platform to views and figures they consider to be taboo, and failing to push back on his guests’ inflammatory statements and lies.
“He’s doing what everybody else ought to be doing,“ she said. “The guy is not stupid.”
Right-wing voices dominate the United States’ most popular podcasts, which were widely credited with aiding Trump’s victory last November. Democrats have struggled to gain a foothold in the booming medium.
According to Dunsmore, Newsom could even be out-flanking the Republicans’ own strategy.
By speaking to the other side rather than fellow Democrats, Newsom is distancing himself from his party’s unpopular positions on issues like trans athletes, said Dunsmore.
“And he’s killing two birds with one stone -- he doesn’t have to deal with his own party crazies.”
For some Democrats, this strategy is dangerous and counter-productive.
Kentucky governor Andy Beshear, also widely expected to seek the Democratic nomination, this week hit out at Newsom.
Newsom’s most recent episode featured Democrat Tim Walz. But he has hinted that Tucker Carlson, another Trump favorite, could be a future guest.
But he also questioned whether it even benefits Newsom, who would first need to win the Democratic nomination in order to run for the White House.
“Frankly he has a day job -- he’s governor of a state with lots of challenges that he’s been not fulfilling... I think he’d be better served doing his job.”
Newsom has a history of making bold overtures beyond his own liberal state.
Capturing national media attention may be the main goal, said Steve Caplan, who teaches communications and marketing at University of Southern California.
“Apparently he’s comfortable with going in a different direction. Will it pay off? It’s a long time between now and the election.”
“It was like almost nauseatingly positive, right?” Kirk later reflected. “In that way it was very difficult to navigate.”
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