Girls just wanna have fun, but sometimes they just wanna cry, too. Luckily, Gracie Abrams has the perfect song for Cyndi Lauper to do just that.
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The two women were paired up for Rolling Stone’s musicians on musicians series, and their conversation was published Friday (Oct. 17). Right off the bat, both ladies praised each other’s work, with Lauper revealing which track in Abrams’ discography made her emotional upon first listen.
“When I was listening to ‘I Know It Won’t Work,’ I started crying,” the 1980s icon revealed.
“What?” an astonished Abrams replied. “Don’t say that to me. I can’t believe you listened to any of the music.”
“I listened to all of it,” Lauper corrected.
The fandom certainly goes both ways, with the Gen Z pop star gushing that she listened to Lauper constantly growing up. Abrams also noted how much she was inspired by Lauper taking such creative control over her career early on.
“I feel so grateful, as a young person,” Abrams told her. “It’s so radically different now, but as I am growing up, I look at everything you’ve ever touched … I’ve adored it before I understood what you meant. Do you know what I mean? The more you grow into being a woman, the more you understand the significance of it.”
“I Know It Won’t Work” appears on Abrams’ debut album, Good Riddance. It’s one of several songs Lauper says she admires, showcasing Abrams’ “rhythm of what you’re doing in your songs, like the rapid speech.”
The two women’s conversation comes just after Abrams wrapped up years of touring in support of breakthrough sophomore album, The Secret of Us, which reached No. 2 on the Billboard 200. She’s now back in the studio working on her next record, though she told Lauper she isn’t sure where her next era is taking her.
“Now that the album cycle is over, the next album isn’t made,” Abrams said. “I don’t know what I want to say yet.”
But, as Lauper pointed out from experience, inspiration will come. “You got your whole life now,” she told Abrams. “It’s going to be really great. You’re going to make it. You are going to write the book.”
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