Heavyweight fighter Josh Hokit sparked a major backlash following his win over Derrick Lewis at the UFC Freedom 250 event. During a post-fight interview with Joe Rogan, Hokit fired off an unexpected insult, telling the audience, “Michelle Obama is a man, am I right, America?”
While Rogan did not immediately address Hokit’s strange slur, UFC CEO Dana White did issue a statement after the incident, telling TIME, “I understand that the Obamas are public figures, but I’m completely against saying nasty and false things about people’s families.” He added, “Everyone knows my position on free speech, but I hate this kind of nonsense.”
Hokit has kept quiet on the matter until recently. On Tuesday, the UFC fighter opened up on ‘The Ariel Helwani Show’ podcast, seemingly justifying the Michelle Obama comment, explaining, “I thought I was giving her a compliment.” As Helwani responded with, “I don’t think anyone viewed it…” Hokit cut in, adding, “Michelle Obama being a man that’s like she knows how to deal with adversity, you know, she knows how to work hard like a man. You know, when the times get tough, you know…”
Helwani then asks the fighter, “Why even go there?” Which is the question on everyone’s mind. Why bring up the former FLOTUS immediately after winning a UFC match on the White House lawn? Well, Hokit has an answer.
“I thought it was a perfect opportunity to, you know, show the world how great this country is with uh, the freedom of speech. You know, you go somewhere, and you say something like that, and you die, you know. And I’m not suicidal, by the way. Um, you know, I’m in good spirits.”
Hokit continued, reiterating his freedom of speech claims, “In other parts of the world, you say something like that, and you’re not here to speak to Ariel Helwani, you know. So um, yeah, I don’t know. There’s a few answers to that, you know, and there’s a certain side that pokes at another side; there’s no outrage there, and so I thought it was a perfect time to take a jab.”
Even though he’s already flip-flopped from it being a compliment to wanting to put free speech in the spotlight to it being a jab in jest, Hokit isn’t apologizing for his statement. Helwani asks the fighter if he regrets saying it, and Josh responds, “Oh, never,” adding, “You’ll never hear me backtrack from what I say.”
As to whether he cares about the backlash, Hokit told Helwani, “At the end of the day, I don’t care.” He goes on to explain that while he has no intention of angering people like Dana White, “You know, I’m here to make a splash and I’m here to back up my words as well, so if anybody feels some type of way, they know where to find me.”
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