The Traitors Season 4 has arrived! Throughout the season, Mike Bloom will speak with someone from the star-studded cast who was murdered or banished on the iconic Peacock reality series.Among the "gamer" contingent of The Traitors Season 4, there was no twin to compare to Natalie Anderson. The Survivor winner has finished first and second in her two seasons on the show, and has also made memorable runs on The Amazing Race and The Challenge. So, heading into Scotland, she was eager to play what she calls an "aggressive Faithful game, utilizing her social skills and strategic expertise to hunt down the Traitors.The first half of the season, Natalie's plan worked incredibly well. She followed her gut instinct on voting for Traitors like Donna Kelce and Lisa Rinna. She was not afraid to speak out after Michael Rappaport's controversial comment to Colton Underwood (a moment many Survivor fans were using to call back to her own war of words with John Rocker over a decade ago). And her physical prowess made her a great asset in the missions. It was all about to unravel, as it would for many, at the infamous "Black Banquet."After Alan Cumming informed the group that one of them had been poisoned, Natalie made an immediate jump for one of two antidotes, believing she had been afflicted. The issue is, so did Tara Lipinski, who had feared the turkey had cooked her chances of survival. The two women argued back and forth before the figure skater finally abdicated, only for it to turn out to be all for naught when Yam Yam Arocho was the one actually poisoned. While Natalie had a clean bill of health, she had dirtied her reputation. Tara in particular was taken aback by her adamance to take the antidote, and began to actually suspect she could be a Traitor.The morning of Episode 10, Rob Rausch woke up with a plan. Natalie, one of his biggest traitorous threats, needed to go. It just so happened, at the same time, Tara had woken up with an epiphany. Natalie was no longer her top suspect; Rob was. Seeking a reconciliation, she approached Natalie, and the two began to put a plan into motion to dump the Love Island alum. When the Round Table approached, Natalie asked Tara, "Did you vote for who I told you to vote for?" And, stunningly, she was met with silence. Whether it was indecision, being convinced by other arguments, or seeking to leave the spotlight, Tara went back on the planning they had done, saying she was no longer sure it was Rob. Other swing votes Johnny Weir and Mark Ballas agreed, laying the clear path for Rob to put Natalie in the line of fire. Suddenly, the Sri Lankan was on an island, as she was banished unanimously, betrayed by her "gamer" reputation. Natalie felt blindsided and demoralized, saying, "I put my guard down this morning. But obviously, I was taken advantage of."
Now out of the game, Natalie talks with Parade about her reaction to Tara and Johnny turning on her (and where they stand now), her relationship with Rob and how it changed
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Let's start with where things end. It seemed like there was almost a pre-Tribal Council scramble before the Round Table, as you attempted to get the votes to take Rob out. So where did you think the votes were before you sat down? Did you think you had all four votes to take out Rob?So I didn't think that I had Mark locked in. But I thought me, Johnny and Tara would be locked in. And then I thought, if we spoke our truth there, and we all just laid it out on the table, we would have definitely got Mark. Because he was already feeling these weird feelings towards Eric, they'd have that weird conversation, Rob and him. So I thought we could bring in Mark, like a 75% chance of bringing in Mark. And then worst case scenario, it's a tie with the f—king Dagger, and then we go to a revote.That's what I thought I was going into. And, at that point, if we had laid it out like in my head, if we had just been so united as Faithfuls, I feel like we could have even flipped — we would have never flipped Maura. But maybe even have Eric be like, "I don't want to be on the wrong side of this vote." So that's I was thinking we could tie with Mark and then do a revote of me versus Rob, basically.You are clearly taken aback at the Round Table when Tara and Johnny choose to not vote for Rob, saying, "I put my guard down this morning. But obviously I was taken advantage of." Talk to me more about your reaction in that moment.A million things were going through my head. I was moody and being so angry, which I think is the worst place to be when you're at the Round Table, is to let anger be the overwhelming feeling. But for a millisecond, I was like, "Oh my gosh, she totally did this as a Traitor. She's so smart, and she did this with Rob." And then that faded really quick. And then I was just like, "You did all of this, and now you're starting off the Round Table by saying, 'You know what? I'm just not going to say anything because I've been so wrong. So I don't want to make any decisions today.'" I was just so taken back. I did feel super disappointed. I felt so dumb for letting my guard down, for going in with this plan with somebody. And I invested all my conversations with her and Johnny, and didn't have conversations with Mark or with Eric or with Maura, or even with Rob, going into the Round Table. Because I was so invested in this, this glimmer of hope that I had of us doing something. Not only for myself, but for the Faithfuls as a unit, to be able to flip the game on its head, you know.So I felt I felt really disappointed, and I did feel hurt in that moment, because it is really hard for me to trust all in these games and to be vulnerable. It's not something that comes easy for me. But I I did that knowing that that's the name of being a Faithful. You have to be vulnerable, and you have to create these bonds with people. And I was so excited for us to do this. And then to have it kind of like taken away from me in that way, especially when everybody's against you, I felt like my back was against the wall. And that's when I got angry, and I was like, "I'm ready to fight. Somebody hold me back!"Where do you currently stand with Tara and Johnny, especially now that you've gotten the chance to watch everything back?Tara and me connected pretty fast. I think she was also very frazzled from that whole night, and we connected. And it is what it is. For me, yes, it's a game. But I'm still trying to forgive myself for things that I did in the game that I'm not I'm not super proud of. I wish I did better. I wish I stood up for myself better. So having the feelings that come with watching the show, they're gonna reignite. But I have nothing against her as a person. It is a game, and it's isolated this castle. Unfortunately, the emotions of losing, for me, are tied into bigger feelings from Survivor and losing the $2 million. So for me, [it 's] the grieving process of losing. Even The Challenge, what I went through, it affects the way I process these things. And I think I went out there different from Tara and Johnny. Tara and Johnny didn't care really too much about winning. And I think me winning means so much more, not only for myself, but also the money. And so I think there's a difference in how we process losing. I live a very normal life, and once in a while I get an awesome opportunity to go out there and physically, emotionally, mentally showcase what I can do. And as gamers, we have this pride in what we're able to do. And, like I said, I'm a high-caliber Survivor player; all of us out there are. And I think we play the game differently, and that's just like how it is. It's nothing against them. It's just me and some of the stuff I have to work through myself for not winning.Your relationship with Rob is something that really wasn't highlighted until this episode. Talk to me more about that, and your comment this episode that you felt he had changed the past couple of rounds.Well, Rob definitely shifted. There was this distance between us. And understand that, because, on Survivor, the day that I loaded up Baylor, I had kind of distanced myself. So it makes that part easier if you're going into a Tribal. And I knew that day what I was gonna do to her. It's not like I was buddy buddy with her all day. There's this way of kind of distancing yourself. So now it makes sense, and I truly felt that it wasn't just throwing something out there that didn't make sense. I felt this distance between Rob. We had been pretty close the whole season. Obviously sucks that he was a Traitor, but it was all true. I felt that in that moment. And I was never mad at Rob. I knew. In my head, I was 99% sure he was a Traitor. But it didn't make me mad, because it made sense what he did. It didn't make sense what Johnny and Tara did, and that's what was frustrating. I can respect anything if it comes to game. But there was just no way you could reason what they did in that moment unless it was just for themselves. It wasn't for the the Faithful as a unit.I want to go back to the "Black Banquet." You make this big push to drink the antidote and, after that, it feels like you start showing up on people's radars (most prominently Tara's). Talk to me about what happened in that moment. And were you aware you were being perceived like that afterwards?I feel like until then, I was passing as somebody that could be trusted, despite being a gamer. And I think that after that, people just had this very different demeanor to me. I walked into the castle and everybody treated me differently. It just sucks that Tara and I did the same thing. But Tara is not looked at as like a villain, but I immediately am. I don't regret going for it. I think that I had such valid points. First of all, the gamers were all getting murdered. Why wouldn't I think that I was up for murder that night? I just wish I owned it. I felt like I asked for permission, and that was the name of this game. I felt like I had to ask these people, "I need it. Can I take it?" And I wish I just was like, "Guys, I'm up for murder. Look at the what has happened. I feel like I need this. I'm drinking this. If one of you guys want to come and grab it for my hands and try and get it for me." I wish I did that, but I feel like that was when people were like, "Oh no, Natalie, she can't be trusted." And I got this cold shoulder from people. And that was that's really hard to work through with people and be like, "Let's build on something," when they're just like, "No, we have other people. You're not somebody that we want to work with."You talk about all these golden opportunities you're presented with. Based on your Traitors experience, would you want to do more? I will note that nobody has appeared on all three of Survivor, Big Brother and The AmazingRace.I mean, I would love to. Rachel Reilly and me were texting, because she's also probably thinking the same thing. Does Big Brother have a gym in the building? They do!Oh yeah, then I'm down for Big Brother. I can't do 90 days without a gym. I would literally just vote myself off. I would totally do Big Brother. I think they're casting now. I think there's a positive and negative. I love being out there. There's something about the rush of playing these games that you really can't get anywhere else. It would be similar to an athele, where they have these opportunities and these championships. And I love playing it. I know that it comes with this negative, like, sometimes when you lose, it's really hard to go through that process. It affected my body multiple times in really drastic ways. But everything that I've gone through, I've been able to overcome. So I would be willing, let's see! Big Brother would be intense. I would have to get some notes from Tiffany. [Laughs.]
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