Survivor 49 is here! Every week, Parade.com's Mike Bloom will bring you interviews with the castaway most recently voted off the island.It's appropriate for Jawan Pitts to have been sent packing in a Survivor 49 episode that aired the week of Thanksgiving. Days before playing, the video editor admitted he was a big people pleaser, stemming from supporting his four siblings since a young age. But despite his generosity, he was not afraid to play independently, something that manifested greatly at the merge when he and Sage Ahrens-Nichols seemed to be in the catbird seat. Eventually, however, the swing votes got swung on, when Jawan's Uli allies decided to take possession of the game over a man who habitually took their possessions himself. And so, for the man used to giving so much, they gave him a shocking blindside to send him out.In the first couple of days, Jawan connected quickly with Savannah Louie, forming a tight alliance. But that relationship broke down with his breakdown over being unable to make fire, something that had her already questioning his stability. It didn't help, of course, that he kept accidentally using her things, actions which prompted plenty of opinion pieces from the former reporter. It was clear that Jawan was at the bottom of his tribe by the time the first swap happened, which made him a prime swing vote candidate to the Hina minority. But the self-proclaimed "king shark" didn't bite. Jawan decided to stick with his former tribemates, until they started to turn on him.
?SIGN UP for Parade's Daily newsletter to get the latest pop culture news & celebrity interviews delivered right to your inbox ? The second swap put the former Ulis in a comfortable majority, but Shannon Fairweather was looking to shake things up with her first Tribal Council. And she jostled herself out of the game as a result, leaving Jawan, Sage and Steven Ramm as a tight trio. Sage and Jawan had claimed their first Uli victim and, like any good horror movievillain, they were looking for more. The two masterfully played the merge, completely duping their former tribemates and booting Marvel producer Nate Moore by forming their own cross-tribal team. But this group wound up less like the Avengers and more like the Thunderbolts. Things split apart as quickly as the next round, when the tribe was quite literally split apart. With an easy vote on the table in Rizo Velovic, Jawan was rattled when he was told Sophie Segreti wanted to throw a vote onto him in case of an idol play. And so began kicking up chaos when he told Sophie what he heard, culminating in them all turning on Michelle "MC" Chukwujekwu.Between this vote, as well as the next vote against Alex Moore, it seemed on paper that the premerge goal of an Uli majority alliance was finally coming to fruition. But Jawan and Sage decided now was the right time to swing back and split up the pair of Savannah and Rizo. And they couldn't foresee the series of unfortunate events that would befall them. Sophie was in the actual power position this round and decided to report the plan back to Savannah. And the tip-off to use her Extra Vote, plus Sophie's flip to the other side, stymied any plan against them. That night's Tribal Council was the biggest of the season, with an incorrect idol play and a fake idol play to boot. As the votes came Savannah's way, Jawan coolly admitted to her that he had plotted her blindside. But, like any good Pokémon master, she knew just when to use Counter. Moments later, their expressions had completely reversed, as the video editor was the one sent to the cutting room floor. Jawan had passed the torch off to a new power player — and quite literally passed his torch when he accidentally walked out with Rizo's.Now out of the game, Jawan talks with Parade about his logic behind all of his postmerge decisions, his very different relationships with both Sage and Savannah, and whether the MCU fan would have worked with Nate if he knew his true career.Related: Read our Survivor 49 pre-game interview with Jawan Pitts
I have to start with your exit. You were in relatively good spirits, especially considering how much this all seemingly took you by surprise. So when did you find out that you took Rizo's torch? And was there a part deep down in your brain that did it on purpose?[Laughs.] Oh my gosh. I wish there was some sort of master genius, game changer plan of grabbing his torch. But you saw, I blacked out. I didn't know what I said. I'm surprised I hugged people, that's cool. But I didn't realize I got his torch snuffed until I watched it on TV. But that's such a Jawan moment. And I think that was a beautiful way to end my story. Fitting from Day 1 where I'm grabbing Savannah's bag and the water bottle stuff.It's understandable your head was in a tizzy when you grabbed the wrong torch, considering how much went on at that Tribal Council. What was your headspace as everything was going down with the idol plays, both real and fake?Ideally, in my head, everything was going to plan. Like, Sage came up with this beautiful, really strategic, two birds, one stone move. Kristina stands up. We know she's gonna play for Steven, and I'm gonna nudge Rizo to play his idol. So when I saw the fake idol, I was like, "Oh no, oh no." And then I'm like, and when he gives it for Savannah, at that point, I'm like, "Alright, we're kind of cooked. But I want to at least burn the real thing, you know." If it's going to be on one of us, I really didn't think it would be your boy. I thought it would be maybe Kristina or Sage. I thought that they wouldn't worry about little old Jawan.Let's talk about Sage. This wound up being your most important relationship in the game, as it's revealed in this episode that the two of you have worked together since the beginning. How did that end up coming together?So early days, me and Sage, we were just solid friends. I had a moment with the fire. And I asked everybody for a minute to be by myself. Sage was on a walk for that moment. But when she came back, she just really was there for me. And she was like, "Hey, I'm glad that you needed space by yourself." Honestly, we weren't really strategically aligned at that point. I think she was more aware that I was on the bottom. But it wasn't until the Shannon boot where I kind of got granted a gift. It's like an advantage. I got a phone call from home. She was like, "Hey, you're in danger. They don't like you." So I think from that moment on, it made me really look at her as family. I feel like Sage is the type of person you meet in high school, and you forget how you became friends. You just always have felt like you've been friends. And I think she's someone that I can be fully Jawan with: Goofy, sad, mad, wacky. I'm grateful for that relationship.Let's go to the other side of the Uli spectrum with Savannah. You were working with her from the beginning, but we see her quickly get off the Jawan train after your aforementioned fire moment. What was your perspective on your relationship? And what's been your reaction to seeing her talk about you in confessionals?Savannah, first off, is a fierce game player. And I think what one of her strengths is, even if she was anti-Jawan, she never gave me an inkling that she was anti-Jawan. And I think that shows her self-control. I just never knew that the water bottle thing bugged through that much. So watching it back on TV, if I'm being real, it did kind of sting a little bit. As someone who wants to always be a part of the group, I've struggled with not being the cool kid growing up, Mike. So I think that kind of opened up a wound for me. But all in all, I think as a video editor, I'm trying to remember, "This is a story. This is a reality show." Me and her have had talks outside of the game. We're good.Well I want to hear your side of the story when it comes to some of these votes in the past couple of episodes. You and Sage choose to flip on the rest of the Ulis, then you all get split up. And MC told me in our interview that she had approached you to tell you that Sophie was throwing a vote onto you to avoid having two Black people going out in a row. What was your perspective on that? And how did things then come together to get rid of MC?Thank you for that question. I'm so happy to address the elephant in the room in terms of our whole boot order. And first off, I just want to say I want to hold space for MC's hurt feelings with that, and also anyone that's maybe uncomfortable watching our boot order. I just want to give my perspective. Every decision I made out there, was about wanting money for my family, so I just kept putting things on that scale. And Mike Bloom, I'm broke, man. I really want to, wanted to go out there and provide a safety net for my family. And I think more specifically when MC came to me about just kind of the optics of everything, we talked about Season 42, Season 43, honestly, my hope was to take that information and really just make sure Sophie goes home. And I struggled to do that once the boat came up with Savannah; there was so much unknown that happened there. So I want to continue to hold space for her hurt feelings. But I know that vote was the most complicated vote for me. I really wanted Rizo out as Plan A; Plan B was Sophie S. But I think when that boat came over, I really had to do what I thought was best for me, to get out alive, to get money for my family.So you stuck with the Ulis with that vote at least due in part to Savannah joining your group. But what made you decide to continue with them and vote out Alex the next episode?So what they don't show is, when I get back, I have a conversation with Kristina, already doing some damage control. I'm like, "Hey, it was going to be Rizo. And honestly, keep this between me and you, Kristina. I don't want this getting back to him. It was going to be Rizo until the boat came and things just got messy." So when I wake up in the morning, I get pulled aside, and we kind of see it by Rizo. Rizo was like, "Hey, were you coming after me before the last Tribal Council?" I was like, "Oh my gosh. Who told you that?" And he said, "Alex did." So I then doubled back with Alex, and they don't show this conversation. I doubled back with him at the well, and I was like, "Hey, bro, did you tell Rizo that we were going to get him on that last vote?" He was like, "What? No, I didn't do that." But one of the things he said that made me nervous about Alex was he was like, "Everyone's saying your name, Jawan." And I wish I could go back in time, because I asked him, "Who's saying my name?" He was like, "Everyone! I'm sorry can't tell you." So I wish I would have doubled down in that moment and been like, "Alex, if you don't tell me a name, I'm going to think it's you." So I went and talked to Sage. And me and Sage at that time felt like things kept getting back to Rizo. Whether it was his lies and he was playing it off or what, we just felt like there was a lot of information going back and forth. Ultimately, I did want Rizo at that vote. But we thought, "It's the final nine. We have a six-person majority, a three-person minority. Maybe we can cut someone that's going back and forth." We didn't realize how loaded the three at the bottom are, like a freaking Knowledge is Power and an Extra Vote. I think if we have that information, it goes way different.Had you stayed, would the plan have been to keep flipping back and forth? Did you have an ideal Final Three at the time you were booted?That's such a great question, Mike. The start of my blindside, I remember talking to Sage, and me and her actually were disagreeing a lot. I'm surprised they didn't show it. She really wanted to be with the Hina side: Yellow Sophie, Steven and Kristina. And I felt I still had my hooks in maybe with Rizo, Savannah and Blue Soph. I just thought that they were more solid. I felt like everyone on the yellow side, Sophie threw out my name one time. I found out Steven didn't tell me about the idol, and me and Kristina had an argument the night before. So I was like, "Yo, this is so shaky to do this side." But ultimately, I think that is the right decision. Because I think that if we got as a five, there would have been more room for us to maneuver from that point on. So I think my ideal three was maybe Bottoms Up. But I was starting to get wary of Steven too. And I want to give Steven his flowers too. Such a great dude, triple threat. And I just love that guy a lot.You told me before the season that you were a people pleaser, and we see on the episodes that you outright say, "I struggle with receiving stuff." How difficult was it for you to balance those tendencies with the cutthroat nature of the game?Yeah, man, I'm such a flawed player. I'm so imperfect. And I thought by watching all of these exit interviews and podcasts, I would go out there and kill it. But I do struggle with receiving stuff. But alos early days, taking out Matt was hard. Me and him fished for hours, and I got a lot of practice with him. And I loved Jason too. Jason was my boy, my Pokemon nerd brother. So I think that part of the game was hard for me. I'm just really grateful for this experience. I'm talking to you, Mike Bloom! This is crazy.I'm not sure if you know this, but I spoke with you and Nate right after each other in the preseason. And, as soon as you started comparing the other players to Marvel characters, I thought you two would be two peas in a pod. Of course, Nate wouldn't reveal his MCU background when he was in the game. But how and when did it happen, and what was your reaction?I think he told me and a group of us one of the last days out of the game. I was just so tired, but I was just like, "What? That's wild. This is awkward." Because me and Rizo spent a couple of nights kind of roasting some new Marvel movies right next to him. So I'm sorry! But it was cool. It was cool to hear that. And I wish he would have told me on the island, I will say. I think that changes a lot. I just felt like, at least with me and Nate, maybe there was just some sort of disconnect there. I kind of felt like maybe he was holding back something. I could have never guessed it was a Marvel thing. But yeah, who knows what would happen if he told me? We'd have a lot more things to talk about.
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