In her latest book You First, Kepnes returns to Joe, this time chronicling his younger days. Set in post-9/11 New York, the book explores Joe’s burgeoning toxic masculinity as he comes of age with the internet.
We meet the seventeen-year-old high school dropout as he’s figuring out what he wants to do with his life while working at the bookstore Moody’s, where he later stalks his prey. This time around the object of Joe’s affection is Vail, an older writer on Sex and the City who uses her experience to groom and manipulate Joe, behaviors he then perpetuates in his subsequent abusive relationships. This is Joe Goldberg we’re talking about, though, so of course he gets the upper hand in the end.
“The way my mind works is, well what if John Cusack was a bad guy?” she says. “He’s unconsciously learning this lesson that when a girl says no, you just keep going after her and you don’t give up.”
“There’s been this sixth sense with all things involved in You—we don’t do it intentionally but oh, there it is,” Kepnes says. “As a writer, I go online, I procrastinate, I talk to people. It’s the journalist in me—I’ve always kept up with what people are talking about.”
Caroline Kepnes —Scott Joseph Anthony“There was this feeling of interconnectedness. We were all [going through it] together,” Kepnes says of New York City after 9/11. “And here’s this person who doesn’t know how to connect with people, when we really did have more in-person interactions.”
It’s for that reason that, on the surface, it may appear that Joe would acclimate to the manosphere but Kepnes begs to differ.
In a way, the You series has been about the male loneliness epidemic before it had a name. “These books are always about loneliness at their heart,” Kepnes says. “How does Joe deal with loneliness and why does he justify this approach to it? What’s scary about that personality type is that they always find a way. Now it’s so much easier for them to find a way.”
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