Selena Gomez has been Taylor Swift‘s best friend for many years, but according to the Only Murders in the Building actress, she’s also been the pop superstar’s muse.
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While appearing alongside husband Benny Blanco on the Friends Keep Secrets podcast, Gomez confirmed fan suspicions that a certain Evermore track is about her while also revealing that Swift has another one inspired by their friendship in the vault. “Well, ‘Dorothea’ is about me,” the Rare Beauty founder said.
“There’s this song Taylor wrote about us, and it was called ‘Family,'” she continued. “It was basically saying, ‘You have these amazing dreams, you want to be in movies — like, in every crowd I still see you.’ And then her part was, ‘You believe in my stupid dreams, like playing stadiums.’ Now when I listen to that song, both of those things have happened for us. And that’s really sweet, because back then, she was just, like, ‘I wrote this song about us. It was just our story, kind of.’ And it was the sweetest thing.”
On “Dorothea” — which dropped in 2020 along with the rest of Swift’s Folklore follow-up, peaking at No. 67 on the Billboard Hot 100 — Swift sings about an old friend who found fame “selling dreams, selling makeup and magazines,” and for whom “a tiny screen’s the only place I see you now.” Noticing parallels between the lyrics and Gomez’s life, from launching her Rare Beauty empire to starring in films such as Emilia Perez, Swifties have long speculated that Gomez was on the 14-time Grammy winner’s mind while she was writing the tune.
But according to Gomez, she is able to connect to all of her best friend’s songs on a different level after becoming friends with Swift when they were both teens. “I feel like a lot of moments — huge moments — that were self-defining, from relationships to family to love to hate, all of it in between, we were figuring it out,” she said on the podcast. “I was 15 and she was 18, and we didn’t really know what was going on, and so we’ve never seen each other any differently. So when I listen to it … I’m so impressed how it’s eloquently put.”
Gomez also opened up about the impressive painting Swift whipped up for her 30th birthday, featuring their respective star signs illuminating a lake scene, which Blanco noted he initially thought had been rendered by a professional artist. As for how they look back on where they started versus where they are now, the Wizards of Waverly Place alum said of Swift, “It’s more so, like, ‘Wow, we survived it — as best we could.'”
Watch Gomez and Blanco’s full episode of Friends Keep Secrets below.
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