?SIGN UP for Parade's Daily newsletter to get the latest pop culture news & celebrity interviews delivered right to your inbox ? Alex and Sophi were abruptly woken up the next morning with the rising tide, a representation of their low prospects in the game. But a much more fortunate wave hit them later that day with a tribe swap. Despite being greatly outnumbered, Alex was immediately brought in as a number for a variety of different alliances. Particularly, his time in the premerge allowed him to spend a lot of time with the former Hina members. So, when the merge hit, it was obvious what side he would take in the tribal war. However, he wanted to maintain his position as a middleman. So, despite reuniting with Sophi, he chose to keep her in the dark, joining a new majority to take out Nate Moore and become the last Moore standing.On paper, the path forward seemed clear for Alex. This new alliance would pick off the former Uli power players, and he could ride to the end on his Hina bonds. But things quickly fell apart when a split Tribal Council, a surprise visitor, and a chaotic afternoon shockingly booted Michelle "MC" Chukwujekwu. Despite the great surprise, Alex wanted to continue his diplomatic tactics, trying to get in good with all the factions that were beginning to develop. But it was this overcommunication that got the communications director in trouble. Clocking what he was doing, Rizo clocked in, putting in work to disparage Alex's questionable loyalty. And it was enough gossip to put an end to the self-proclaimed "office gossip." A bloc of the underdog alliance, the new power couple of Jawan Pitts and Sage Ahrens-Nichols and newfound free agent Sophie Segreti came together to end Alex's campaign for a seat in the Survivor winners' circle.Now out of the game, Alex gives his reaction to being called a "messy" player, how his relationship with Sophi never recovered from the merge, and how much his political experience helped — and hurt — him in the game.Related: Read our Survivor 49 pre-game interview with Alex Moore
You knew Rizo had thrown your name out earlier that afternoon. So, were you surprised when you ultimately ended up going? And who were you most surprised by from the six votes you got?I think that ultimately I'm most surprised by Jawan, Sage and Sophie Segretti. I knew that Soph, Savannah and Rizo were going to vote me out. That was not a question in my mind. I just didn't understand how we have an alliance of seven people, basically everyone who was on the Nate vote, we had said we would stick together. They turned on MC. And I'm at this point thinking, "Well, if they didn't get Rizo's idol out this time, surely they'll have the wherewithal to do it this time!" And so it's hard when you go into this thinking like everyone's thinking the same way as you. I knew that I wanted to take a shot. Me and Rizo were rivals from Day 1. He won the battle, I won a couple battles in there with rewards and immunities in between. But he ultimately won the war. But you can see who the players are out there, who's being strategic. And Rizo saw me as that strategic threat, and so that's why he was making up lies and embellishing things. But I just thought other people saw that too. So it wasn't I knew as a chance I'd go home, but that's what we saw as the result.We saw Rizo's campaign be all about the fact that you were in with everyone. And that then led to comments that you were "messy" and "doing too much," which took me by surprise considering how we hadn't really seen that in the edit up to that point. What was your reaction to that perception?So the definition of being "messy" is being friends with everyone and having people like you. That was my "messy." I just talked to everyone, and everyone liked telling me things and being around me. And because I wasn't sticking to a Hina side or an Uli side. I'd go have conversations with Rizo, and we'd hang out, and then I'd go have conversations with Kristina. And so it's not that I was like, spreading rumors about anything or playing this "messy" game. It's just that people didn't like how liked I was. I'm not even trying to be conceited or anything. I remember on the Nate vote, I said to Rizo one time on the beach, "Are you sure you could trust Jawan and Sage?" With me knowing that they were going to vote out Nate. And he's like, "Yeah, I know for sure." And so that was my way of giving him a little heads up, trying to give him an olive branch. And he didn't pick up on that, and then basically worked to use that against me. And so that's the type of thing where it's like, I talked about Sophie Segretti, like, "Oh, is anyone else going to ever win an Immunity Challenge?" Because she's always in contention. And he says, "Alex wants you out," that type of thing. And so he really was spinning every little thing I would say to him — in a friendly way — to my demise.You were adamant to flush Rizo's public idol. And maybe that comes from the fact that you had one yourself back on Kele. In the episode, it seems like you were close to not playing it, but ultimately chose to do so. Was there one moment or conversation that made you decide to do that? And how did you feel about the decision after you found out it wasn't necessary?So I went into Tribal Council prepared not to play my idol, and I was not going to play it. Nothing at Tribal changed my mind. It was when Jeff walked back. That's when you get paranoid, in those 10 seconds, where you're kind of like, "Am I making the biggest mistake ever if I don't play this?" Soph had told me that Jeremiah was going to vote for me. She basically was flustered at that point and trying to save herself, and so I felt like I could trust her. And I had made it clear over and over, "I'm gonna play my idol. I'm gonna play my idol." And I think that she really believed me. But ultimately, it just came down to, I couldn't do the Rizo. I couldn't risk it. I just wanted to make it to the next day, and thought I could find it tomorrow. And so really, I wasn't going to play it, and then I just couldn't risk that.Let's fast-forward to merge, where you and Soph reunite. What made you ultimately choose to go against Nate, and leave her in the dark? And what was it like trying to do damage control afterwards?Yeah, that was a funny moment. I mean, I wanted to work with Soph. We built that trust that was all genuine. And then I just saw how close she was with Savannah and Rizo, and I knew that there wasn't any penetrating, that I'm going to be at the bottom. I want to be able to have a group who supports me. And yeah, the Hina group was strong. But Kristina and I had a really close relationship. Steven and I were building a really close relationship. And so I felt like, "Those three are always going to prioritize each other. Let me just stick with these new relationships that I built." And I thought that Soph might be able to forgive me and that we could try and play this middle ground. But she was so jaded and burnt, and I knew there was no recovering from that. She was pissed at me. And I remember Savannah even told, "You really have to rebuild that relationship with Soph." And I'm like, "I know! Help me, please!" [Laughs.] Because I did want to kind of be able to shift to their side at some point, and it just was never going to happen. So that's why I'm ultimately not surprised that she voted me out.
Alex Moore (L) and Jeff Probst (R) on 'Survivor 49'Robert Voets/CBS
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